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`Windows: Gotov je.` (ZDNet)
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PhatPhuck `Windows: Gotov je.` (ZDNet) 12.05.2013. 05:43 T53021

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http://www.zdnet.com/windows-its-over-7000013964/

`Changing too fast for the user-base was what turned many former Windows fans into Windows 8 haters. Some people think I`ve put too much emphasis on Windows 8`s dismal Metro interface for why Windows 8 has failed. I don`t think so. This isn`t a matter of judging a book by its cover. the user interface (UI) is everything for computer users. If the UI alienates users, you lose them. It`s as simple as that.

My comrade pointed out that I declared Vista dead six years ago, but that the Aero interface, which I like, started there. True, but that wasn`t the point. I was right. Vista did die. Microsoft had to bring back XP to stop users from fleeing to Linux on netbooks.

Now, Microsoft could revive Windows 7 sales, or make Aero Windows 8.x`s interface, but from everything we can see about Windows 8.1, aka Blue, that`s not what they`re doing. Instead, Microsoft seems to be doubling down on Metro.

Idiots.


You think the least they could do is give users a choice between a real Aero interface and Metro, but no, they won`t do that. I don`t know what it is, but lately, UI `experts` seem to want to create interfaces that only appeal to their builders and not to any of their users. It`s not just Microsoft with Aero. In Linux, GNOME made similar blunders with its 3.x line and many former Ubuntu Linux users think Canonical went on the wrong track with Unity.

Yes, we are entering a post-PC world. Tablets and smartphones are becoming more important... to sales. PCs are no more going to go away than mainframes did. We`re still going to be using them in offices and homes for the foreseeable future. They let us easily do things that we need to do every day that we can`t easily do with a tablet or a phone.

Perhaps most of our computing will move to the cloud, but you know what device we`ll still be using for most of our interactions? It will be a PC, simply because it`s easier to enter data with a real keyboard than any other interface.

True, it would be great if you could use one operating system for your PC, tablet, and smartphone. Besides Microsoft with Windows 8.x, Canonical with Ubuntu, Mozilla with Firefox OS, and Google with Android/Chrome are all making similar bets.

But I don`t think that`s essential. I think Microsoft could continue to dominate the important, but no longer growing, desktop market for years, even decades to come. However, I don`t think they will.

It looks like Microsoft is betting all its chips on the silly notion that Metro will be the one true interface for its entire PC and device line.
There`s only one little problem with this idea. Sorry, but I have to say it again, look at the numbers: Metro-interface operating systems have already failed.`


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obradmi Prosla su vremena kada se naplacivao OS 12.05.2013. 10:11 #492173

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prvenstveno zbog interneta ,a i zbog pojavljivanja konkurentskih OS-a (Ubuntu ,Andorid,OS-x i slicno)Cini mi se da Microsoft treba dobro da razmisli o tome da OS daje besplatno,jer ce
stvarno na kraju da propadne ,pojecsce ga Android koji postoji za sve moguce hardverske platforme.


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Shomiman Re: `Windows: Gotov je.` 12.05.2013. 10:28 #492177

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Zar sad kad Gljvica pregovara sa čelnicima Microsofta.?!


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PhatPhuck Re: Re: `Windows: Gotov je.` 12.05.2013. 10:45 #492178

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On je oduvek bio u toku, i visoko-motivisan da zaključuje ugovore sa pogrešnim stranama. A i dnevnica za putovanje mu je MINIMUM 1500EUR, tako da...

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Spacewla Windows hejteri kao i uvek u akciji ... 12.05.2013. 10:46 #492179

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Citat: `user interface (UI) is everything for computer users. If the UI alienates users, you lose them. It`s as simple as that.`

Da je ovo tačno, onda Apple ne bi prodao ni jedan jedini iPhone, koji nije ni imao `UI`. Takodje se ni Samsung ne bi probio sa svojim Android UI-em pored fenomenalno rešenog HTC Sense UI-a.

Dajte ozbiljnosti molim ...


Za kraj: Svi pljuju po Microsoftu i Windows-u a niko ni da spomene Apple Mac OS i `planinske lavove`, leoparde i sl. gluposti od naziva?!?

ZAR TO TEBE PHAT BAR MALO Ne ČUDI?!?!?!? Microsoft = devil, Apple = angel?!? HA????
Ne treba biti teoretičar zavere pa otkriti da se tu radi o smišljenoj kampanji da se obori nabolji ... a ko ima para za takvu rabotu koje je zaradio na uredjajima sa `tehnologijama budućnosti` i besplatnom open source sofftveru Linux koga je preinačio u `UI` Android koga sada prodaje????

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Shomiman Re: Windows hejteri kao i uvek u akciji ... 12.05.2013. 11:30 #492184

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Da si iole precizniji, `narikače` bi znale koga da oplakuju...


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toothless Lepo sam ja rekao da je Bili mazao javnost kampanjama... 12.05.2013. 11:44 #492187

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o oslobađanju od bogatstva i Robin Hud proseravanjima.
Hoćeš da pomogneš čovečanstvu i da ubrzaš napredak? DAJ DžABE WINDOWS! :)

Ne mora ni dinar da pokloni od svojih parica, samo džabe windows i postaće besmrtan u širokim narodnim masama. :D

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Shomiman `... i postaće besmrtan u širokim narodnim masama...` 12.05.2013. 11:49 #492190

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Da li ti `besmrtnici` imaju lice..? Mogli bi da ih stavimo na probu! Naravno, da smo imalo ozbiljniji...


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Drasko014 Sta ce covek 12.05.2013. 12:14 #492193

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nek ima 10 % od 27 milioncica pa dosta je,a i ko ce da plati obuku za nase salterske sluzbenike da koriste Ubuntu ili neke besplatne aplikacije i programe.Vako (sto bi rekli gejaci)
ja moju proviziju u dzepic ,a vi vidite sta cete i kako.Nije ni cudo sto im je u opstinama i javnim sluzbama cesto pao sistem

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neXus2000 ... 12.05.2013. 12:44 #492198

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Ovako, Android nije jeftin. On se prodaje za neku simbolicnu sumu. Lupam 10 dolara. To moze i MS da uradi, da proda Windows za 10 evra. I to da bude jedinstvena verzija, kompletna. A ne od Home do Ultimate varijante.
OEM proizvodjacima, moze da je proda za 2 evra. Milijardu kompjutera oni su dobri 10 milijardi. E sada kada se izracuna trosak koji su imali, dobri su oni, mnogo su dobri. Pa makar menjali Windows na svake 2 godine.
A za razliku od Google, Google se jos uvek izdrzava od reklama, prvenstveno preko search engine-a, pa do Youtube-a. Cak i Gmail ima reklame. Tu je njima profit.


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operator re 12.05.2013. 13:21 #492207

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@PhatPhuck & obradmi

MS-ovo vrijeme daleko od toga da je proslo.
Android je daleko od toga da se koristi za trziste, kome je primaran dio Windows.
Cak i kada, tj. ako bude bolje, trebace mu godine dok sve ugovorene strane prihvate Android umjesto Win-a.
MS je na vrhu. Ostali su dole.
Win se i dalje naplacuje.
Da nema Intela, onda bi bilo drugo pitanje, ali cika Bil se obezbijedio na duzi mniz godina, bez da je pitao za savjet i mario za misljenje.

Sve sto radimo, radimo za svoju decu, nikada nece biti svjesni.

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sashai ... 12.05.2013. 17:18 #492244

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Efemerno, ali do krajnjih granica...

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